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When the Towers fall down Sun, 08 May 2011 00:13 Go to next message
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By TruthOrDie 27 Jun 2011 05:01 on Simon's forum.
Note the "trees" on the Tomas Nilsson pic. This Tomas Nilsson was on interview on SVT 9/11 2011. No tricky questions asked!

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Re: When the Towers fall down Sun, 08 May 2011 14:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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THE EMPTY TOWERS is something we induce based upon operation effectiveness and common sense. No one has come forward and told us this.

The basis is the fake pictures, and the fake video. Fake, we say. It imply that no picture or video evidence can be used as argument for or against any event, modus operandi, or time sequence.

So, on the morning of Tuesday 11, Sept 2001, a action-style movie go on the Telly, and there is no one who see any, take any pictures, and at least publish or tell us about it later. The conclusion is that you can take down the Towers any way you like, as long as you complete the work in the allocated time frame.

This is a major argument against any/all more esoteric conspiratorial scenarios, such as using UFO-style death ray weapons, using A-bombs in the basement, UFO attack, licorice steel effect, etc.

You can take down the towers using conventional means. A controlled demolition use a computer-controlled sequence of shape-charges. These explosives, that explode a small distance from the steel, fold and accelerates a copper plate that cut through the steel column. You must reach the bare steel to mount the explosive, and a very thin cut through the steel column is produced.

A problem is that you need to clear the demolition site really fast afterwards. You don't want any one to show up with a camera! Some of us thought, that when the towers are on the ground, a photo of the rubble with a fire-fighter could be a genuine photo. This was investigated late in 2010, where all such photos was found to be fake, including overall photos with N.Y. and a small demolition site.

Let's be a bit clever, here! How about if we arrange explosives also on the concrete floors, so they are cut in lorry-size pieces, easy to load afterwards. Each floor is approx 3.950m2 cutting into 3mx6m blocks produce 220 blocks cut-length (half!) 3m+6m -> 220*9m = 2000m cut-length for each of the 220 floors + basement 7 levels. You can also cut elevator size chunks from the floors, land them on a trolley on the floor below, and run them through the elevator system to load them for transportation in the basement. If you put three chunks on the trolley for each transportation, and if you work for a month, much can be accomplished. I'll don't fancy cutting also the core columns, or removing the floors completely, as this could affect the stability of the Towers.

The typical main question is all the people, who work at the Towers or a company that rent space. The reality is rather contradictive to the intuitive approach. You simply just ask them to cooperate, and they will!

You tell them some super-traumatic story that an A-bomb is in the building, that will soon blow up most of the N.Y. city. You then tell them that a fake and successful "attack" is to be fabricated to fool "the terrorists" into believing another terrorist group got to the towers first. Make this credible, and make them sign a military secrecy agreement.

And then the Towers go down, and Heiwa have suggested that the Towers are destroyed from the bottom up, as this is advantageous. You then start at the basement, and since the basement floors was common to both Towers, how about demolishing both Towers at the same time?

The activity around the Towers; our speculations thereof, can be divided into two schools:
A Realism Approach and a Psychological Approach.

The Realistic scenario could include a blue, clear, sky; the "Planes" marked by some kind of flying object; Fuel-special-effects to eject fuel from the Towers when the "plane" hits, smoke generators to simulate the Fire. I personally like this scenario, but kindly note
that the fire you see on the videos cannot be the real event, and the reason is the subliminal pictures, that has been inserted into the smoke and fire. This take time, and you should possibly test-run the TV broadcast on a test-audience also.

The Psychological scenario is not as fancy. If you can keep N.Y. citizen from finding out what's on for just a handful of minutes, you don't have to mess with the second "Plane" explosion or any; especially not the first "plane". Switch on the smoke and be happy. If the day was hazy, some number of smoke generators in a distance could obscure the view preventing all detailed photography from afar.
I have this feeling, that the TV broadcast around the towers was different (switched off?) compared to the rest of the U.S. The 30 minutes gap between the time when the Towers fall can be overcome by obscuring the view using much smoke.

And we don't have any time for the WTC7 demolition either.

EDIT: I has been suggested (ref), that a scenario where the WTC Towers are demolished FIRST, before anything else, is to be considered. This explain why there is no independent/amateur pictures that are real. If this is correct, the audience have about 9 seconds to snap a picture. If the Towers are missing, and you switch on the telly, the story is running and the Towers are gone. The present time-line with 8.46 to 10:30 of action, can be a construction afterwards. A shorter time-line may have been used locally.


This text is extremely speculative, and not based upon observations. It is for research purposes only, with the aim of illustrating:
If we don't know, the reality could have been much different compared to the TV version. A lot of people can easily be made to cooperate. They will keep silent!


You cannot "chock" them, either, by telling them that there where no "Planes". They already know that the video is a fake and also the planes and NIST-reports and all that.

[Updated on: Fri, 09 November 2012 07:08]

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These pictures are from heiwaco.tripod.com
(Heiwa co)

http://heiwaco.tripod.com/WTC.jpg


http://heiwaco.tripod.com/ABWTC.jpg

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Still photo from this vantage point credited to Amy Sancetta

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