Z = the same pink paving-stone reference point seen in both FEMA GZ shots above.
Z should also represent some sort of HEIGHT-AXIS, but this is the problem. and it
is too variable to 'guesstimate', let alone determine.
X = the WIDTH of the 'massive crater' in pic 1, (60metres+?) apparently spanning
the entire distance between wtc 5 & wtc 4...
X = the width of the (same) 'badger-set' in pic 2, (6 metres ?) ?!?
Y= the LENGTH of the 'massive crater', which in pic 1, is similarly another 60 metres+,
straight across to the nearest edge of wtc 4, so the crew in yellow stood
by wtc 5, should be at least 20 metres away. as the picture is limited within the
frame, the Y-axis is indeterminate, but the 'photo' suggests the crater is huge.
so, the Y-axis in picture 2, suggests that the 'crater' is roughly 10 metres, or
roughly, approximately two thirds of the distance towards the pink paving-stone (Z).

pic 1 suggests SAME CRATER is approx 60X20++ metres.
pic 2 suggests SAME CRATER is approx 6X10 metres...

how deep were the 'craters'? how could trucks in pic 2 navigate the gigantic
holes like the 'crater' suggested in pic 1?

Z is the 'reference-point'...
if all the 'ground-level' plaza that leads up to the paving where 'Z' is, in pic 2, has
supposedly 'collapsed', before pic 1 was taken (?) then what is the cameran
standing on? if that same 'ground' beneath him, is gone!

the extreme contradictions in the 'scale' of this supposed 'same' crater, are
incredible, as is all the 'massive crater' -type imagery, when so many other
G-ZERO pics have big trucks driving straight through the whole 'levelled' site.
no punctures? driving over 110 storeys of obliterated twisted steel wreckage. X2.
good tyres.....

the 'craters'... fact, or fiction? in some shots its like the grand-canyon,
while in others its more like the salt-flats in utah...

GROUND-ZERO... levelled, or spiked?






This post has been edited by reel.deal on Oct 31 2010, 10:41 PM

*
For years, I 'knew' that only ONE photographer had access to Ground Zero.
I thought it was time to remind everybody about this dude...

JOEL MEYEROWITZ

" the only photographer allowed unrestricted access to ground zero immediately following the attack":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Meyerowitz


http://www.phaidon.com/aftermath/



From the George Bush Presidential Library and Museum
Photograph by Joel Meyerowitz captioned:
"11 MILLION DOLLARS"



http://bushlibrary.tamu.edu/exhibits/2002-after_911/

Also check out the other lovely pics such as "Gardener in the Garden of the Dead" and that ripped American flag...

at seminal moments in history, we are blessed to have such fearless documentary photographers as james nachtwey, without whose bravery we
would never know that following the collapse of the south tower most chinese-origin downtown new yorkers went shopping for hi-spec industrial
goggles & breathing apparatus @ 'TOOLS-R-US'



and also, again, thanks to nachtwey's priceless 'reportage' skills, we would never have known that GROUND-ZERO had NO CRATERS WHATSOEVER...
that in fact, the FDNY were in the final rehearsals for their "stunning" and "GROUND-BREAKING" latest production, a genius & inspired avant-garde
"thought-provoking" re-interpretive adaptation of the classic Tchaikovsky ballet...
'SWAN LAKE G-ZERO' (on ice)...







This post has been edited by reel.deal on Nov 3 2010, 12:57 PM

Can't beat a bit of Ballet ..O the high culture of it all!

Product placement and little joke at our expense. Look in the mirror.



The Medusa was also present in NY on that day. Lots of stone statues walk around

Nice spotting, terence. Dang!

Look away! Look away! Don't study these pictures too hard ... absorb and move on. Absorb and move on.

naivE indeed!

Brilliant! Inciteful!

Naive - classic!

The naive Medusa & free-standing impaired friend suffered some minor technical difficulties
acquiring both a matching pair, AND a single solo ballet-pump...



This post has been edited by reel.deal on Nov 3 2010, 08:13 PM

Don't you just love tough-feeted women.?...Ouch!